July 2021 - EU-CONSENTiNG_consortium

Shared Consortium Folder
by Soheil Human 01 Sep '21

01 Sep '21

Dear all, Thanks for participating in our meeting today, Here is the link to our shared folder: Link: https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/s/FBNQZN2Lr9F2cAo Password: consentIng?21 Best, Soheil -- Director Sustainable Computing Lab https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu <https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu/> Institute for Information Systems and New Media, Vienna University of Economics and Business (WU Wien) https://nm.wu.ac.at/human <https://nm.wu.ac.at/human> Lecturer Department of Philosophy, University of Vienna

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My telephone number
by Soheil Human 29 Jul '21

29 Jul '21

Dear all, Thanks again for participating in our call today. Sorry, that it tooooooooooook soooo looooooooong. Here is my telephone number, in case you like to write to me on Signal or call me: +436606533424 Cheers, Soheil -- Director Sustainable Computing Lab https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu <https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu/> Institute for Information Systems and New Media, Vienna University of Economics and Business (WU Wien) https://nm.wu.ac.at/human <https://nm.wu.ac.at/human> Lecturer Department of Philosophy, University of Vienna

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Fwd: Our meeting tomorrow at 13:00 CEST
by Soheil Human 29 Jul '21

29 Jul '21

-- Director Sustainable Computing Lab https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu <https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu/> Institute for Information Systems and New Media, Vienna University of Economics and Business (WU Wien) https://nm.wu.ac.at/human <https://nm.wu.ac.at/human> Lecturer Department of Philosophy, University of Vienna > Begin forwarded message: > > From: roca <vincent.roca(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: [Eu-consenting_consortium] Our meeting tomorrow at 13:00 CEST > Date: 29. July 2021 at 11:27:35 CEST > To: Soheil Human <soheil.human(a)wu.ac.at>, "Harshvardhan J. Pandit" <harshvardhan.pandit(a)adaptcentre.ie>, Cristiana Santos <cristianasantos(a)protonmail.com> > Cc: roca <vincent.roca(a)inria.fr> > > Dear Soheil, Harsh and Cristiana, > > Direct response as I don’t know how to interact with the consortium, if emails is the privileged way or if you want to set up some slack/mattermost/... forum. > I’d personally be in favor of reducing email traffic as much as possible. > >> Think about the potential use-cases that we can work on >> At the moment, we are considering: >> Smart cars / transportation >> Smart cities >> Health data >> What else? >> (Signatu as a use-case provider?) > > WP8 currently distinguishes only « »consenting via web browsers » and « consenting in iot » which is quite different from above suggestions. > A few comments: > > #1 > I think the « via web browser » is key to the consent topic and should be retained as a use-case. > And it applies both to traditional laptop browsers and also smartphone browsers, the case of smartphones bringing additional questions. > > #2 > The involvement of Signatu is nice, since they provide the CMP view of the web browser consent and its evolution for the coming years where many key changes will undoubtedly happen. > That’s very complementary to our view as researchers on the topic. > I’d like to see as use-case the new trends of the IAB/CMP/Google/etc. for collecting and managing user consent. > From what I understood, I have the feeling there’s a general move to connected environments as replacement of cookies, and I fear users may have less control of what will happen. > > #3 > In the smartphone environment, there are clear incentives to have users switch to dedicated apps instead of accessing web services through traditional web browsers. > It’s beneficial for the companies from a user engagement viewpoint but also because it enables them to collect additional data not accessible through the browser controlled environment. > Hence smartphone apps also raise questions in terms of user information and consent, and I think it should be an additional separate use-case. > > #4 > Regarding iot, it’s unavoidable to split into sub-domains, as suggested above in your email, because the situation is pretty different. > In a smart home, a user has some control over what is installed, but is left totally powerless in terms of information and consentl, especially as a single smart device can usually be controlled in many different ways… > The situation is pretty different with smart cars where you basically indirectly use what has been included by private companies, and the same is true for smart cities with a mixture of private and public equipments. > To summarize, I suggest adding a « smart homes » use-case, and keeping iot use-cases separate as much as possible. > > #5 > Each of these use-cases will cast some light on how consent is currently managed and issues they raise, in a « state-of-the-art » manner. > As I understand the project proposal from the EU Consenting_WP_Tasks_Partners_V4 document, I have the feeling the current WP/Task description puts more importance on the development/deployment of a new consent scheme, than on what we can learn from existing practices. > I’m not sure this clean slate approach is the goal and would be well appreciated by reviewers. > > Cheers, > > Vincent > > ---- > Vincent Roca, PhD/HDR, PRIVATICS team leader, Inria research institute, France > https://privatics.inrialpes.fr/people/roca/ <https://privatics.inrialpes.fr/people/roca/> > >> Le 28 juil. 2021 à 13:38, Soheil Human <soheil.human(a)WU.AC.AT <mailto:soheil.human@WU.AC.AT>> a écrit : >> >> Dear all, >> >> Hope all is well. >> >> To be well prepared for our meeting tomorrow, we’d appreciate it if you kindly: >> Read the call text carefully: https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tenders/opportunities/portal/screen/oppor… <https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tenders/opportunities/portal/screen/oppor…> >> Compare it with our existing WPs/Tasks (you can find it on our shared folder) >> Reflect on the points that need to be updated/added/removed/... >> Think about your contribution to the project once again >> Think about the potential use-cases that we can work on >> At the moment, we are considering: >> Smart cars / transportation >> Smart cities >> Health data >> What else? >> (Signatu as a use-case provider?) >> Think about concrete industrial partners that can support the use-cases and can be invited to the consortium >> >> Thanks a lot, >> >> Looking forward to it, >> Soheil >> >> -- >> >> Director >> Sustainable Computing Lab >> https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu <https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu/> >> Institute for Information Systems and New Media, >> Vienna University of Economics and Business (WU Wien) >> https://nm.wu.ac.at/human <https://nm.wu.ac.at/human> >> Lecturer >> Department of Philosophy, University of Vienna >> >> >> -- >> EU-CONSENTiNG_consortium mailing list >> EU-CONSENTiNG_consortium(a)alice.wu.ac.at <mailto:EU-CONSENTiNG_consortium@alice.wu.ac.at> >> http://alice.wu.ac.at/mailman/listinfo/eu-consenting_consortium >

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Our meeting tomorrow at 13:00 CEST
by Soheil Human 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

Dear all, Hope all is well. To be well prepared for our meeting tomorrow, we’d appreciate it if you kindly: Read the call text carefully: https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tenders/opportunities/portal/screen/oppor… Compare it with our existing WPs/Tasks (you can find it on our shared folder) Reflect on the points that need to be updated/added/removed/... Think about your contribution to the project once again Think about the potential use-cases that we can work on At the moment, we are considering: Smart cars / transportation Smart cities Health data What else? (Signatu as a use-case provider?) Think about concrete industrial partners that can support the use-cases and can be invited to the consortium Thanks a lot, Looking forward to it, Soheil -- Director Sustainable Computing Lab https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu <https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu/> Institute for Information Systems and New Media, Vienna University of Economics and Business (WU Wien) https://nm.wu.ac.at/human <https://nm.wu.ac.at/human> Lecturer Department of Philosophy, University of Vienna

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search for additional partners - new call
by Petra Zalud 23 Jul '21

23 Jul '21

Dear all As discussed at our yesterday's meeting, we plan to apply under the EU call Scalable privacy-preserving technologies for cross-border federated computation in Europe involving personal data <https://ec.europa.eu/info/funding-tenders/opportunities/portal/screen/oppor tunities/topic-details/horizon-cl3-2021-cs-01-04> Deadline 21 October 2021. For this project, we would need to add further industry partners and use case partners. In case you can recommend a possible partner/network, please add to the list in our shared folder <https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/s/wKRSJABHnx9NzQf> https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/s/wKRSJABHnx9NzQf (PW as usual), or send your suggestion directly to Soheil. We will jointly evaluate the partners list at the next meeting to decide on who to contact. Therefore, please do not actively contact a possible partner so far. Many thanks and best regards Petra Dr. Petra Zalud CEO tp21 tp21 GmbH . Luisenstrasse 14 . D-10117 Berlin skype: za-tp21 T:+49 (0)30 530 45 95 5 <https://tp21.com> https://tp21.com Sitz: Berlin . Amtsgericht Charlottenburg Berlin HRB 156791 B . Ust-Id-Nr./VAT-ID: DE 229548135

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conference call - July 22 Reminder
by Petra Zalud 21 Jul '21

21 Jul '21

[EU-CONSENTiNG] - conference call 22. July 2021 - 13:00 to 14:00 CEST This is a reminder related to our consortium conference call. Main topic: Analysis of call topics and decision making. Join Zoom Meeting https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/j/97298144491?pwd=elZVRlgySkJ1c3F0WTdBVlRXWVZqdz09 Meeting ID: 972 9814 4491 Passcode: 316448 See you tomorrow Best regards Petra Dr. Petra Zalud CEO tp21 tp21 GmbH . Luisenstrasse 14 . D-10117 Berlin skype: za-tp21 T:+49 (0)30 530 45 95 5 <https://tp21.com> https://tp21.com Sitz: Berlin . Amtsgericht Charlottenburg Berlin HRB 156791 B . Ust-Id-Nr./VAT-ID: DE 229548135

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Our call today at 13:00 CEST / Meeting Notes
by Soheil Human 15 Jul '21

15 Jul '21

Dear all, Here is a link to our meeting notes: https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/s/ambJoYArc9oQwfP <https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/s/ambJoYArc9oQwfP> [Default] password: consentIng?21 We always use this link for our consortium meetings: Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system. Weekly: https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/meeting/tJMvfuGpqj8uE9VPywPKDtmuxHmG-2KJZavQ/ics?i… Join Zoom Meeting https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/j/97298144491?pwd=elZVRlgySkJ1c3F0WTdBVlRXWVZqdz09 Meeting ID: 972 9814 4491 Passcode: 316448 Looking forward to it, See you soon, Soheil -- Director Sustainable Computing Lab https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu <https://www.sustainablecomputing.eu/> Institute for Information Systems and New Media, Vienna University of Economics and Business (WU Wien) https://nm.wu.ac.at/human <https://nm.wu.ac.at/human> Lecturer Department of Philosophy, University of Vienna

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Contact list
by Petra Zalud 15 Jul '21

15 Jul '21

Dear all Here the direct link to the contact list incl. vacation periods of the partners in the shared folder: https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/s/JF5FJnYT7XZxZzk Please use the PW as already sent by Soheil. -->May I ask you to check/correct/complete the given information. Thanks and best regards Petra From: Petra Zalud <zalud(a)tp21.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 2:57 PM To: 'eu-consenting_consortium(a)alice.wu.ac.at' <eu-consenting_consortium(a)alice.wu.ac.at> Subject: [EU-CONSENTiNG] - consortium meeting - July 15 1pm CEST [EU-CONSENTiNG] - conference call 15. July 2021 - 13:00 to 14:00 CEST Dear all Please find below the agenda and the zoom link for the tomorrow's meeting. Main Topic: * Writing strategy: project focus vs call focus required partners' contributions, application structure under Horizon Europe WP table elaboration Work orga via Kanban * Varia For internal collaboration, please find the contact list incl. vacation periods of the partners in the shared folder: https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/apps/onlyoffice/2749525?filePath=%2F2021_ EU_CONSENTiNG_Consortium%2FEU-CONSENTiNG%20contact%20list.xlsx -->May I ask you to correct/complete the given information. Join the Zoom Meeting <https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/j/97298144491?pwd=elZVRlgySkJ1c3F0WTdBVlRXWVZqdz09 > https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/j/97298144491?pwd=elZVRlgySkJ1c3F0WTdBVlRXWVZqdz09 Meeting ID: 972 9814 4491 Passcode: 316448 If not jet done, please send your DRAFT budget to Soheil and me. Many thanks in advance, see you all tomorrow. Best regards Petra Dr. Petra Zalud CEO tp21 tp21 GmbH . Luisenstrasse 14 . D-10117 Berlin skype: za-tp21 T:+49 (0)30 530 45 95 5 <https://tp21.com> https://tp21.com Sitz: Berlin . Amtsgericht Charlottenburg Berlin HRB 156791 B . Ust-Id-Nr./VAT-ID: DE 229548135

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Discussion on Call CL4-Data-01-01
by Rigo Wenning 15 Jul '21

15 Jul '21

Hello all, I'm Rigo Wenning, Legal counsel at ERCIM/W3C and one of the architects behind the SPECIAL project. For ERCIM/W3C I participate in the activities of the Big Data Value PPP since 2016 when it was founded. The webinar from the G1 Unit, overseeing the data value chains is behind the call HORIZON-CL4-2021-DATA-01, they said that they deliberately made the calls more fuzzy to inspire creativity. Nevertheless, Call 2021-DATA-01 is a call on data value chains. The call says: === The technologies should facilitate sharing and manipulation of data in compliance with prevailing and emerging legislation (e.g. GDPR) for data processors and data subjects/rightholders and other stakeholders. The technologies and solutions should enable safe and secure data handling, sharing and re-use in the context of common European data spaces in various situations and application areas. === It is clear that the core goal of the call is to enhance the "dataspaces", I could also call them data lakes. Another hint is that it says: === The actions are expected to build on Horizon 2020 actions on privacy- preserving technologies and liaise with appropriate actions from Horizon 2020 topic ICT-13-2018-19 === The SPECIAL project (and e.g. Mosaicrown, where I'm involved) was done under ICT-13-2018-19. But there were also projects on homomorphic encryption etc. This means the gravity of the call is in data value chains and in data sharing and re-use. The project, as far as I understand it from a phone conversation with Harsh, wants to get rid of cookie banners and get to some decent consent mechanism. While this may be needed to satisfy the legislative requirements as pointed out in the call, this is just an add-on. Additionally, the call will be highly competitive. This means chances are really low to get the project funded because: 1/ The work has already be done to a large extend by SPECIAL 2/ The story about use of data for the better of society with concrete use cases is missing. In the meantime, I suggest to target the Call CL4-2021-HUMAN-01 that is exactly about the challenge the project is targeting. But in this case, re-doing DNT will not be enough. We need to augment this with further research in the direction of SOLID and DIDs and identity management in general. The SPECIAL approach may be taken as a basis, but is not sufficient. What is missing now for this call is the participation of core internet champions, meaning industry partners. But we can work on this. Budget is 36Mio and I can ask how much they expect per project. I assume this is similar to 2021-DATA-01-01, meaning 8Mio/project, so we get around 4-5 projects funded. Thy specifically mention cooperation with projects in 2021-DATA-01-01, which could be done with some of the proposers in this space. This will also show the needs for interoperability, which will be a plus. I look forward to the discussion on 13h00, but I come out of a general meeting all morning. This means I could be slightly late and pretty worn out. -- Rigo Wenning ERCIM/W3C Legal counsel

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[EU-CONSENTiNG] - consortium meeting - July 15 1pm CEST
by Petra Zalud 14 Jul '21

14 Jul '21

[EU-CONSENTiNG] - conference call 15. July 2021 - 13:00 to 14:00 CEST Dear all Please find below the agenda and the zoom link for the tomorrow's meeting. Main Topic: * Writing strategy: project focus vs call focus required partners' contributions, application structure under Horizon Europe WP table elaboration Work orga via Kanban * Varia For internal collaboration, please find the contact list incl. vacation periods of the partners in the shared folder: https://humans.ocloud.de/index.php/apps/onlyoffice/2749525?filePath=%2F2021_ EU_CONSENTiNG_Consortium%2FEU-CONSENTiNG%20contact%20list.xlsx -->May I ask you to correct/complete the given information. Join the Zoom Meeting <https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/j/97298144491?pwd=elZVRlgySkJ1c3F0WTdBVlRXWVZqdz09 > https://wu-ac-at.zoom.us/j/97298144491?pwd=elZVRlgySkJ1c3F0WTdBVlRXWVZqdz09 Meeting ID: 972 9814 4491 Passcode: 316448 If not jet done, please send your DRAFT budget to Soheil and me. Many thanks in advance, see you all tomorrow. Best regards Petra Dr. Petra Zalud CEO tp21 tp21 GmbH . Luisenstrasse 14 . D-10117 Berlin skype: za-tp21 T:+49 (0)30 530 45 95 5 <https://tp21.com> https://tp21.com Sitz: Berlin . Amtsgericht Charlottenburg Berlin HRB 156791 B . Ust-Id-Nr./VAT-ID: DE 229548135

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